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Suffolk Notebook: Legislators Eye New Gun Safety Measure

Legislature scheduled to vote Tuesday on bill that would allow seizure of weapons from involuntary psychiatric patients.

The Suffolk County Legislature at its March 5 meeting will consider a new gun safety measure aimed at keeping weapons out of the hands of involuntary psychiatric patients. 

The legislature's Public Safety Committee passed legislation Thursday that mandates law enforcement officials crosscheck the names and addresses of individuals transported to Stony Brook University's Comprehensive Psychiatric Emergency Program against the county's pistol license registries.

If there is a match, law enforcement is allowed to investigate and suspend or revoke the individual's license, possibly seizing their gun.

Legis. Kara Hahn, D-Setauket, proposed the bill after the recent school shooting in Newtown, Conn., and movie theater shooting in Aurora, Colorado. 

"This is a simple connect the dots measure," Hahn said during the committee's deliberations. "This is not a knee-jerk reaction to the recent mass shootings; this is a logical step. We are focusing in on the ones who have been identified as a threat to themselves or others." 

If adopted, the bill would codify the county's informal policy and could expand its use in areas outside Suffolk County's Police District. 

Suffolk looks to limit sales of energy drinks

Suffolk County legislators will hold two public hearings this week on bills that propose limiting the availability of energy drinks. 

Newsday reports that Legis. William Spencer, D-Centerport, has proposed two bills banning the distribution of energy drinks at county parks and beaches, and banning free samples of energy drinks from being given to minors. 

Suffolk health advocates are pushing for stronger regulations. The Suffolk County Board of Health in November requested lawmakers consider implementing legislation to ban the sale of energy drinks to anyone under age 19. 

Spencer said he initially supported an age restriction on energy drink sales, but said it would be difficult to define energy drinks in a way that would exclude soda and coffee. 

John K Massaro March 04, 2013 at 12:51 AM
And just about as entertaining. The NRA supports terorists, coddles murderers, advocates the deaths of children & uses obsolete fantasy scenarios & fear tactics on the general public for their own politcal & monetary gains...
John K Massaro March 04, 2013 at 12:52 AM
(cue the "you spelled terrorist" wrong posts in 3...2...1...)
Darren Gengarelly Sr. March 04, 2013 at 01:04 AM
Spelling is the least of your problem. Care to back up all that crap you just through at the wall? Without insulting anyone?
John K Massaro March 04, 2013 at 01:17 AM
It's "threw"... Very simple. Look at the board of directors for the NRA. 90% of them are CEOs of some major gun or ammo corporation. They couldn't care less about the safety of the American public, it's all about the almighty dollar. Lining their pockets with the blood money of dead children while brainwashing the American people that "The answer to the gun problem is more guns". To them, the answer to the gun problem is more money in their bank accounts. Do your homework & get back to me with an apology...
Mark A. Mann March 04, 2013 at 01:30 AM
I just had a chance to some of the NY SAFE act and noticed they included some of the popular Remington semi-automatic tactical shotguns as banned "assault weapons" The Remington tactical 12 guage pumps are not banned. Interesting what Emperor Cuomo snuck in there. You can see they are targeting all semi-automatics.
Argile March 04, 2013 at 01:37 AM
So basically you can go to war and sacrifice your life for this country at 18 but won't be able to buy an energy drink? Absolutely asinine. 17 and under would be better.
GJ March 04, 2013 at 01:53 AM
Not everyone who goes to CPEP at Stony Brook is involuntarily committed. Politicians once again are trying to use a broad brush -- and in the process are displaying their ignorance -- and group anyone who seeks mental health services as "mentally defective." CPEP is merely a psychiatric emergency room where determinations are made whether to involuntarily commit or release. Rather than punish those who seek and/or receive mental health services, maybe the focus is more properly placed on those who need help and refuse to get it.
John K Massaro March 04, 2013 at 01:56 AM
Eww. Why would anybody want to drink one of those things anyway? Nashty! (which is slang for "worse than nasty!") Shrink your kidneys, dude. Red Bull smells like landfill...
Argile March 04, 2013 at 02:22 AM
Some people drink coffee, some tea, some Monster or Redbull. With the amount of sugar in the latter I wouldn't touch it with a 10 foot pole. But some like it. Young kids are stupid, they add alcohol too it so I'm all for the 17 and under ban.
John K Massaro March 04, 2013 at 02:34 AM
I'll agree. I wouldn't be surprised if they found that stuff to cause some sort of cancer in years to come. A guy I used to work with used to drink those things every morning. The smell alone would make me nauseous. I can't imagine adding alcohol to it. I probably wouldn't even be able to swallow it. Yuck!
Darren Gengarelly Sr. March 04, 2013 at 12:23 PM
You want an apology for providing more empty opinions? I have a question. If the problem is guns why is our history not full of such gun violence? Unprovoked mass shootings were non-existent when people were accountable. Now everyone wants to point fingers. At say the NRA for instance. You have not provided a single fact that anyone at the NRA wants children dead. Typical blown up hype. All opinionated hot air unless you have facts. Apology accepted.
Conservative Underground March 04, 2013 at 02:24 PM
I really don't think this falls under any authority of the County. They should concentrate on fiscal matters which seem to be growing more troublesome. The State has messed things up bad enough already, no need to complicate things anymore than they already are.
John K Massaro March 04, 2013 at 02:26 PM
I'll give it to you, Darren. It's obviously more important to you than it is to me...
knee jerk March 04, 2013 at 03:41 PM
Maybe your favorite scene from "Planet of the Apes" (where Heston screams "its' a mad house", ) was meant to be a lead-in to the final scene where he finds a destroyed Statue of Liberty, and says "they finally did it"!!! A classic anti-war, anti-weapon, anti-gun movie.
John K Massaro March 04, 2013 at 04:37 PM
Even better is the sequel, where they all bow & worship a nuclear weapon with blind ignorance. The "Divine Bomb". Ursus, the leader of the Gorilla army claims, "The only thing that counts in the end is power! Naked merciless force!" Their weapons are their gods & in the end it kills them all...
Argile March 04, 2013 at 04:53 PM
If I had a quarter for everytime I heard a code M to CPEP overhead I could by a tank of gas. In my truck.
FYI March 04, 2013 at 06:13 PM
John. It will be just as easy for the lunatic in the Plymouth to drive out onto the playground during school recess, a Little League game or any other sporting event and mow down any number of innocents. But then again, while you are running for cover, maybe someone would be able to stop them...with another ___________ (you fill in the blank) until the police arrive.
FYI March 04, 2013 at 06:21 PM
Yeah John, you keep watching the movies for your realities. It's just unfortunate that even when presented with facts you won't admit the possibility of being incorrect. http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=b2Upjn5DR0o
Angela March 05, 2013 at 01:47 PM
I couldn't agree more....Ted! It is USELESS and a waste of energy trying to convince the 'anti gun' activists, AND the LEGISLATORS of this CORRUPT County, that this 'SAFE ACT' is nothing more than TOTAL CONTROL by PAPPA GUBBERMENT!! Cuomo signed this into law while all of NY was sleeping. Where is the DUE PROCESS?? He passed this so quickly, he forgot to add EXEMPTIONS for, oh I don't know.....THE POLICE DEPARTMENT??? Retired Police Officers??? Can you imagine....the STUPIDITY?? This law is UNCONSTITUTIONAL on SO many levels. Especially the 'psychiatric' part.....Now say for instance, a husband and wife are fighting....maybe the wife wants a divorce.....the husband refuses.....she picks up the phone....dials 911.....and tells them her husband is a psycho, and he threatened to kill her and the children. The police arrive ((THREE hours later)), and take him into custody....they do a psych evaluation, and find him to be a 'possible threat'. BUT he's NOT. He's pissed, he doesn't want to lose his kids, he still loves his wife, so now what?? THEY TAKE HIS GUNS AWAY??? for HOW LONG?? until the LONG LEGGED MACK DADDY says he can have them back?? yeah....right. THAT will never happen. Now what about the people that are depressed, they may have lost their job, their house, etc. and they go to psychiatrist for help, HIPA law in effect. Now what?? THAT'S out the window too?? Enough is enough! Do you NOT know the RED TAPE we have to go through just to get a POOL PERMIT??? WAKE UP!!
John K Massaro March 05, 2013 at 02:16 PM
Uhm... I wasn't making an attempt to confirm or deny any facts. I was merely agreeing with knee jerk on a metaphor in a film. So get down off your soap box. Then you attempt to paint me as a person who who "takes reality from film" while posting some YouTube NRA tripe about some ignorant fantasy conspiracy theory while some redneck schmuck plays with his phallic symbol. Gimme a break...
Stevo March 05, 2013 at 03:51 PM
I'm all for having the right to keep a legal gun in my house, but some of you think there should be no laws to prevent the wrong people from having them.
highhatsize March 05, 2013 at 04:33 PM
to Stevo: The devil is in the details. If everyone is allowed to own firearms except for the "wrong" people, then everyone can be prevented from so doing by definition of the word "wrong".
Stevo March 05, 2013 at 04:45 PM
I don't know what your definition of "wrong" is, but mine is for people who are proven to be psycologically unfit.
highhatsize March 05, 2013 at 06:35 PM
to Stevo: "Psychologically unfit?" Does that include people who take tranquilizers? How about those who overindulge in alcohol? What about mind altering anti-depressants?
Zigsauered March 05, 2013 at 11:00 PM
Make them wear an arm band so that we know who the nuts are?
Walter S March 06, 2013 at 12:17 AM
There are many people who do not take alcohol or substances of any kind but are just plain STUPID and should not have a gun or even drive a car which is equally as dangerous. I am driving home on the LIE tonight and there is this guy doing 45-50mph in the third lane causing a major traffic backup. I must have been behind him for at least 6 or 7 exits because of the traffic jam he was creating(I couldn't get an opportunity to get around him. But when I got in the second lane, pulled up next to him, he has this big phone or IPad and he's TEXTING! Looking directly into it while he is driving in the 3rd lane of the LIE. Where were the cops? This was obvious. So what I am saying is there are people who have more mental capacity under the influence of a substance than many who are totally straight but totally stupid.
knee jerk March 09, 2013 at 11:33 PM
"Psychologically unfit"? Robkoz's picture is next to this in the dictionary.
Thomas Lynch March 23, 2013 at 04:08 PM
I think its kind of humorous a County that pulls over and CLEARY identifies as ILLEGAL (that means they are breaking a law on the books right? not some future law or campaign induced stupidty, etc.) aliens for driving uninsured, uninspected, unregistered vechicles (some in traffic accidents and all breaking a trafic law to boot) and we don't do ANYTHING about it - as a matter of fact the DA bars the police from detaining any more folks because this is PROFILING??????? And now we are going to be PROFILING or going a witch hunt to steal guns from citizens and folks based on anon. tips and etc. and demanding entry into people homes????? Seems ILLEGAL ALIENS have more rights then citizens and OF COURSE us lowly tax payers who can pay fines, and legal fees, and pay relaestate and county taxes, etc.
Carl "The Truth" Williams March 23, 2013 at 04:49 PM
If you wanted to prevent guns from getting into the hands of the mentally ill , there would be a boatload of law enforcement & nearly all the politicians that would have to relinquish. EVERY REPUBLICAN NYS ASSEMBLYMAN AND SENATOR WHO VOTED FOR THE SAFE ACT! NYS SENATE: Skelos, Libous, Flanagan, Fuschillo, LaValle, Marcelino, Hannon, Boyle, Golden, Grisanti, Lanza, Martins NYS ASSEMBLY: Curran, Losquadro, Lupinacci, Malliotakis, McDonough, McKevitt, Ra Remember to vote against these anti 2nd amendment, UN-American, non Constitutional loving hypocrites. To to all the Patriots out there, be strong, you're not alone, never surrender. Hoo-ya.
FYI March 23, 2013 at 08:02 PM
John, Where did you deduce that this was connected in any way with the NRA? Redneck schmuck? Really? I guess you were just raised to believe that you are better than this man. Great parents led you believe you are the chosen one, correct? Phallic symbol? Real original...

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