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Third Hearing on Homeless Shelter Resolution Monday

Meeting will be held Monday at 10 a.m. at the North County Complex in Smithtown.

A resolution calling for Suffolk County to terminate a contract with the operator of a Hauppuage homeless shelter will be heard again after the county Legislature’s Human Services Committee tabled the discussion for the second time last month. 

The resolution, introduced by Suffolk Legis. John M. Kennedy Jr. says the homeless shelter is exceeding the amount of families it is allowed to house. 

According to officials, the shelter currently houses 96 families and is within two miles of another shelter in Brentwood, which prompted residents to ask at last month's meeting why they are receiving what they believe is a disproportionate amount of homeless families in their area.

The resolution will be reviewed again on Dec. 9 at a 10 a.m. meeting of the County Legislature’s Human Services Committee at 725 Veteran’s Hwy. in the North County Complex in Smithtown.
Thinking hope December 06, 2013 at 02:11 PM
All concerned residents please attend the Human Services Committee Meeting. They will be voting whether to terminate or keep the contract for the Mega Shelter. Monday, December 9th at 10:00am At the William H. Rogers Legislature Building 725 Veterans Memorial Highway, Smithtown, New York 11787 You are urged to attend this meeting to help our community stop the county from breaking their own laws. These laws are in place to protect us. If you cannot attend this meeting it is imperative that you show your support by sending an email to all the following committee members immediately prior to Monday’s meeting or email info@suffolkunited.com DuWayne.Gregory@suffolkcountyny.gov Flanagan@nysenate.gov Kate.Browning@suffolkcountyny.gov Tom.Cilmi@suffolkcountyny.gov Al.Krupski@suffolkcountyny.gov Thomas.Barraga@suffolkcountyny.gov county.executive@suffolkcountyny.gov Your email must include your name and address. This information can be used to show your support to terminate this contract: "I hereby support Suffolk County Legislator John M. Kennedy, Jr.'s "Introductory Resolution 1817," as Suffolk County has failed to conform with Section 438 of the Suffolk County Administrative Code. The County's actions have caused a potential significant impact upon the School Districts." As a resident of Suffolk County I am very concerned with this administration making poor decisions and repeatedly breaking their own county laws. As a voter I will not accept this type of behavior from my elected officials. http://www.suffolkunited.com https://www.facebook.com/suffolkunited
Thinking hope December 06, 2013 at 02:12 PM
Facts about this contract and the impacts it will have on our community if we don’t take a stand!  We are NOT trying to throw the homeless back on the streets; these families will be relocated into small homes or smaller shelters throughout Suffolk County. If we have shelters spread throughout Suffolk County where there are 71 different school districts no district will be overburdened. These homeless families would then have kitchens to cook and not be forced to use food vouchers at places like 7-11 as well as the privacy they deserve to live in different neighborhoods without the “homeless” label.  Suffolk County law states 12 families max per shelter, no more than 48 families in a 2 mile radius. These are illegal shelters which have not been approved by the state. And beware that our area has many more hotels that can be used for transient housing!  We have tried to FOIL the details for this contract and have been denied information on how much state aid we are receiving for the in-state students. We receive no aid for out-of-state students.  The Safety Net Program protects out-of-state families when their funds run out or when an individual fails a drug test and is taken off the system in their own state. Many of these homeless families are from out-of-state because they no longer qualified for support from their state’s welfare system.  No one ever complained about the small shelters we already had in our area or the students that had been enrolled in our schools over the past years. We cannot allow Suffolk County to violate their own laws and overburden our communities. According to NY State there are MANY districts in Suffolk County that currently have NO HOMELESS!  Overcrowded shelters are a potential means of spreading disease, illnesses, lice, & bed bugs and these children attend our schools. A financial impact example: A standard student costs the district about $14,600 per year to educate. Any student requiring any special services cost about $56,000. These numbers are not made up and can be found on the district report to the state. So far Hauppauge and Smithtown school districts have not received ANY state aid for in-state students and will NOT receive any state aid for out-of-state students. Considering 30 as a conservative number and 20 of the students need additional services that will cost the district $146,000 for students without additional services and $1,120,000 for additional services. Hauppauge only receives about 18% of budget aid for their own resident students from the state compared to other districts that receive over 80%. Your taxes dollars will pay for the additional expenditures resulting from the large shelters. New York State has the tax cap which limits us to 2% or consumer price index which will be about 1.5%, whichever is higher. School electives, enrichment programs, and many other services may be cut to cover these new costs. Many people saved for years to buy a house in our area especially because of the excellent schools, they should not have to lose programs and services because… 65% of Suffolk County homeless families have already been placed in western Suffolk MEGA shelters all within a 2 mile radius. It is very fair to say that is a great disproportion! Questions or concerns please email info@suffolkunited.com or visit us at http://www.suffolkunited.com https://www.facebook.com/suffolkunited
Thinking hope December 06, 2013 at 02:14 PM
All concerned residents please attend the Human Services Committee Meeting. They will be voting whether to terminate or keep the contract for the Mega Shelter. Monday, December 9th at 10:00am At the William H. Rogers Legislature Building 725 Veterans Memorial Highway, Smithtown, New York 11787 You are urged to attend this meeting to help our community stop the county from breaking their own laws. These laws are in place to protect us. If you cannot attend this meeting it is imperative that you show your support by sending an email to all the following committee members immediately prior to Monday’s meeting or email info@suffolkunited.com DuWayne.Gregory@suffolkcountyny.gov Flanagan@nysenate.gov Kate.Browning@suffolkcountyny.gov Tom.Cilmi@suffolkcountyny.gov Al.Krupski@suffolkcountyny.gov Thomas.Barraga@suffolkcountyny.gov county.executive@suffolkcountyny.gov Your email must include your name and address. This information can be used to show your support to terminate this contract: "I hereby support Suffolk County Legislator John M. Kennedy, Jr.'s "Introductory Resolution 1817," as Suffolk County has failed to conform with Section 438 of the Suffolk County Administrative Code. The County's actions have caused a potential significant impact upon the School Districts." As a resident of Suffolk County I am very concerned with this administration making poor decisions and repeatedly breaking their own county laws. As a voter I will not accept this type of behavior from my elected officials. http://www.suffolkunited.com https://www.facebook.com/suffolkunited Facts about this contract and the impacts it will have on our community if we don’t take a stand!  We are NOT trying to throw the homeless back on the streets; these families will be relocated into small homes or smaller shelters throughout Suffolk County. If we have shelters spread throughout Suffolk County where there are 71 different school districts no district will be overburdened. These homeless families would then have kitchens to cook and not be forced to use food vouchers at places like 7-11 as well as the privacy they deserve to live in different neighborhoods without the “homeless” label.  Suffolk County law states 12 families max per shelter, no more than 48 families in a 2 mile radius. These are illegal shelters which have not been approved by the state. And beware that our area has many more hotels that can be used for transient housing!  We have tried to FOIL the details for this contract and have been denied information on how much state aid we are receiving for the in-state students. We receive no aid for out-of-state students.  The Safety Net Program protects out-of-state families when their funds run out or when an individual fails a drug test and is taken off the system in their own state. Many of these homeless families are from out-of-state because they no longer qualified for support from their state’s welfare system.
Thinking hope December 06, 2013 at 02:14 PM
 No one ever complained about the small shelters we already had in our area or the students that had been enrolled in our schools over the past years. We cannot allow Suffolk County to violate their own laws and overburden our communities. According to NY State there are MANY districts in Suffolk County that currently have NO HOMELESS!  Overcrowded shelters are a potential means of spreading disease, illnesses, lice, & bed bugs and these children attend our schools. A financial impact example: A standard student costs the district about $14,600 per year to educate. Any student requiring any special services cost about $56,000. These numbers are not made up and can be found on the district report to the state. So far Hauppauge and Smithtown school districts have not received ANY state aid for in-state students and will NOT receive any state aid for out-of-state students. Considering 30 as a conservative number and 20 of the students need additional services that will cost the district $146,000 for students without additional services and $1,120,000 for additional services. Hauppauge only receives about 18% of budget aid for their own resident students from the state compared to other districts that receive over 80%. Your taxes dollars will pay for the additional expenditures resulting from the large shelters. New York State has the tax cap which limits us to 2% or consumer price index which will be about 1.5%, whichever is higher. School electives, enrichment programs, and many other services may be cut to cover these new costs. Many people saved for years to buy a house in our area especially because of the excellent schools, they should not have to lose programs and services because… 65% of Suffolk County homeless families have already been placed in western Suffolk MEGA shelters all within a 2 mile radius. It is very fair to say that is a great disproportion! Questions or concerns please email info@suffolkunited.com or visit us at http://www.suffolkunited.com https://www.facebook.com/suffolkunited
Michele December 07, 2013 at 03:37 PM
Rode by Moreland Ave and saw real "Urban Blitz". It looked like cities being destroyed that we see on TV! Kids crossing Motor Parkway to go and get their ration at Applebees. Yes, a very pretty sight for the good old U.S.A.
Mike Geraldo December 07, 2013 at 08:45 PM
Please attend to show your support. We must demonstrate our insistence that ours laws and our people (homeless or not) be treated with respect.
MD December 10, 2013 at 09:41 AM
Any resolution to this yesterday?
Mike Geraldo December 12, 2013 at 04:40 PM
Resolution was tabled again. One legislator (Barraga) did move to approve, but 2 others voted to table. It was interesting though. DSS gave false information about the # of students coming from the facility and about school district reimbursement. It's just one lie after another.

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