Town Mulls Sonic Proposal for Nesconset

Town of Smithtown's outdoor dining ban may bog down plans.

A public hearing for a 2,100 square-foot Sonic restaurant in Nesconset, at the southeast corner of Middle Country Road and Alexander Avenue, is scheduled for next week in front of the town's Zoning Board of Appeals.

The applicant attempting to open the Sonic location, Valley Stream-based Serota Smithtown LLC, will request that the town consider the 1950s diner-style restaurant its outdoor food service as an accessory use to its indoor seating, according to a Newsday article. Smithtown has a ban on outdoor dining.

However, Town Planning Director Frank DeRubeis told Newsday that he doesn't see Sonic's primary use as a service counter restaurant. "I think it's prohibited in the town," he said.

A Sonic last year , and at the end of April this year, Sonic in North Babylon , as it remains the only Sonic in Nassau and Suffolk Counties.

Click here to read the entire article in Newsday.

The full text of the public notice for next week's hearing is below. More public hearings can be found on the town's public notices portion of its website.

  • Serota Smithtown LLC, , 70 East Sunrise Hwy., Suite 610, Valley Stream, NY 11581. Location: SE/c Middle Country Rd. & Alexander Ave., Nesconset; Property Zoned: WSI. SCTM#: 114-9-1,2,3 & 4. Request: Special Exception to permit a 2,100 sq.ft. counter service restaurant; Variance of a special exception standard to permit a counter service restaurant to have outdoor dining; Variance to permit outdoor dining in WSI district; Permit 22 loud speakers at locations other than drive-thru windows; Reduce required landscape islands from 9 to 1; Reduce landscape area between front property line and parking from 8% to 7% (existing); Increase number of ground signs from 1 to 32; Increase max. area of ground signs from 40 sq.ft. to 739 sq.ft.; Increase number of wall signs from 1 to 7; Increase height of 2 wall signs from 15 ft. to 20 ft.; Increase height of 1 wall sign from 15 ft. to 21 ft.; Permit 3 wall signs not facing a public street; Interpretation to determine if curb-service is permitted as an accessory use to a counter service restaurant.
  • Nesconset Dude June 27, 2012 at 07:38 PM
    Yes, Smithtown likes to do this when they know they have a dilemma on their hands. In this case it's "Do we screw the taxpayers and increase our account surplus or just do the right thing?" A dilemma for them, indeed.
    Nesconset Dude June 27, 2012 at 07:41 PM
    I'm waiting to hear something myself. My last communication with the Nesconset Taxpayers I gave them my email address and they said that meetings would be organized. Hopefully we see movement on this in the next week so we triple the number of people who show up to the next meeting. i think Sonic is going to be fluff compared to the Story Book thing. I can only imagine how ornery Mr. Vecchio will be that night.
    Candyee June 27, 2012 at 07:55 PM
    Thanks to all keeping us well informed! I do not live in Nesconset, but only by a short distance and this will most definitly effect my area.. Appreciate all you are doing to stop the apts .. I check this thread daily , the updates are great ..Don t give up the fight ! Many of us are backing you ....
    Nesconset Dude June 27, 2012 at 08:30 PM
    Give up the fight? The gloves are off, might be seeing some bloody knuckles. The best thing you can do is spread the word, along with everybody else. The more people that show up at the night of the next hearing, the stronger the message. Sure, they can prevent people from entering, but the protest can continue outside. Judging by the fact they were tunring people away from the Sonic hearing, we may have to organize this next hearing better so that as many people that want to can speak. Unfortunately, this now isn't just against Story Book homes, it's also going after the town board to do the right thing and we know that this will be a battle with them.
    localguy June 27, 2012 at 09:39 PM
    7-11 on the site being built now and I hear a bank across the street.


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